Wednesday, June 30, 2010

Lonnie Frisbee, The Jesus Movement and the Early Years of Calvary Chapel

The Jesus Movement exploded in America, especially on the West Coast in the late 60s and 1970s, basically marrying evangelical [mostly charismatic-pentecostal flavored] Christianity with the hippie ethos, its influences even affecting churches today via contemporary Christian music, the Emergent movement, “signs and wonders”, and the seeking to make the church “modern” and “hip” to younger people.



Back then its members were called "Jesus freaks". While some good came of this, a few people really did become born again being led to God's truth, leaving the promiscuous sex, and drugs of the hippie lifestyle behind and coming to to a relationship with Jesus Christ, what really happened over all is the hippie ethos infiltrated the churches.

Some believe this was done by design, let's just say for now that many have theorized that there was luciferian involvement and planning into the outburst of drugs such as LSD with folks like Timothy Leary promoting it, the hippie movement itself and the resulting rapid radical changes in societal more's in the late 1960s.

Many denominations not just Calvary Chapel were birthed out of the Jesus Movement. These include also, Vineyard who had John Wimber do the leading before his death in 1997, and "The Way International" and well known cults such as The Children of God [COG] now referred to as the Family International.

One interesting compelling figure is Lonnie Frisbee, who played an integral role in the founding and expansion of Calvary Chapel and later when he parted ways with Smith, emphasizing more Pentecostal signs and wonders also played a great role in the start of the Vineyard church with John Wimber when Wimber decided to take his Calvary Chapel church on to a new path, parting ways with that denomination and forming a new one. Lonnie Frisbee has even had a movie made about him as well.

In exploring the history of these groups, what stood out to me, is the story of Lonnie Frisbee's “Christian conversion”. The Bible tells us in Romans 11:16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump [is] also [holy]: and if the root [be] holy, so are the branches. Lonnie Frisbie did not keep it secret from the world that his conversion to “jesus” came via an "inspired acid trip." Sadly this poor man seemed to accept what he saw as truly coming from God and was led down a path of deception via hallucinatory drugs, this probably played a role in the fact that he was unable to achieve victory over a lifelong sin-struggle with homosexuality,

In other words, he saw a vision via an acid trip and was not brought to true biblical repentance and being born again via faith. He joined with a false spirit. As reported on this website:



“Lonnie seems to have met “Christ on one of these trips” Here are the disturbing details surrounded Lonnie's conversion: Lonnie's high school friend, Judy Meston, recounts:

“Se we drove out to Tahquitz Falls and we hiked up-he wanted to go to the very top falls and once he got there, he opened his back pack and he spread out—and he had LSD and he had marijuana, and he had all his oil paints and he had his togas, so we did. And he proceeded to paint a picture of Jesus on the rocks, a full sized picture of Jesus on the rock. Then he pulled out his Bible and he got into a kind yoga position and he says 'We're gonna read the Bible now.” He was reading about John the Baptist and how John the Baptist baptized and he baptized us up at Tahquitz Falls, even though we were all on drugs...”

DiSabtino continues:

“Sometime in 1967 at the age of 17, Lonnie Frisbee took another trip into Tahquitz Canyon. There he took a hit of LSD, removed his clothing and began to pray in a relatively unorthodox but sincere manner. He would later recount here that God came to him in a vision and told him of the unique role that was he was soon to play.

This vision?

“He saw the Pacific Ocean emptied out of water but filled people raising their hands, and crying out to God to be saved. He says he saw a sea of humanity crying out to the Lord. He said the Lord told him that he would have a unique ministry, and that he was not to be afraid.” {Neal Leibig "Pastor”}

Lonnie continues:

'When the Lord called me, I was going into the desert and I was taking my clothes off and I was going “God, if You're really real, reveal Yourself to me!” And one afternoon the whole atmosphere of this canyon I was in started to tingle and get light and started to change and I was going “Uh-oh!” I didn't want to be there!”


On this video Lonnie Frisbee himself backs up this story:



Here Chuck Smith recalls meeting Lonnie Frisbee and talks about his early role in Calvary Chapel:




So realizing this was the man that help to give Calvary Chapel it's early spark for nation-wide growth and then did so much to get Vineyard off the ground is disturbing. Now God can call even the most wretched drug-addicted person to salvation. Some drug users will be on their knees calling out to God. God will lead people to Him in spite of the fact they are using drugs, or in a false religion or involved in other wickedness. However true repentance leads away from the use of drugs, not seeing the drug-vision as the impetus to start a new church. There is a reason Paul warns against "sorceries" which in the Greek is "pharmakeia" [related to the use of drugs] in Revelation 9:21: Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

Many false religions and satanic mysticism have their roots in the use of hallucinatory drugs that open gateways to the spirit world. [evil spirits]. Sad to say for many without a biblical world-view, they do not discern how these drugs open the doorways to Satan and his demons,or how the Bible warns of the "mandrake" and what that means.

Native “shamans”, witchdoctors, Vooduns, traditional aminist religions seek after the spirit world using drugs with mind-altering effects. There have been books even written on how LSD, itself has been used for mind-control. These same effects are sought even via extreme acesticism in some religions. These drugs open the mind to the spirit world, basically to demons, who wish to deceive mankind and lead to false deceptions.

We should mourn that Lonnie Frisbee was so falsely led, any lost person is a tragedy, but be mindful of these early roots in realizing how insidious deception can be.

11 comments:

believer in Messiah said...

And for all intents and purposes, you are just as lost as he was.

mijadedios said...

Bravo! I like how you connected the dots here. I want to know who the elusive, "John" is that introduced Lonnie Frisbee to Chuck Smith. Then I would like to know how "John" met Lonnie. I would then like to know if Lonnie was not sent on purpose or used to start a false move of God for the sole purpose of 'reclaiming' the hippies back into the 'new' social 'order' that was forming via The Family's goal. I guess there's a lot of work yet to be done in research. I trust God will reveal the truth in the time frame He sees fit. Keep contending here at Galations4. (psalm 11)

Bible Believer said...

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr93.html

make sure to continue to the other pages....
website and article
I still have to read this in depth but have just browsed so far, but the Laurel Canyon connections I think would be very interesting. See how the music and enterntainment worlds are linked, well same for religion. They work both the "left" and "right" sides as we know.

Here is something really really weird I found out acouple years ago...

see page 32

http://books.google.com/books?id=CJhaBvbmuOQC&pg=PT30&lpg=PT30&dq=Charles+Manson+and+Lonnie+frisbees+wife&source=bl&ots=OWhW99SNF1&sig=d9PgEMxZODmfLWNO1YDToKS2IUg&hl=en&ei=6gfYTe6NOaji0QHgrOX7Aw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCAQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://www.ocweekly.com/content/printVersion/42509/

From article above:

"Like Lonnie, Connie Bremer had a troubled upbringing; to this day, she blames her mother for making her feel worthless. Bremer dabbled in drugs and prostitution to numb the pain. She appreciated that Lonnie made her feel special, wanted—although she says she never had romantic feelings toward him. They lived together for a year in a big house the hippie Christians shared in the Frisco suburb Novato, but she can't remember ever so much as holding his hand. She does remember one oddball she talked to for four straight days: Charlie Manson."

I would like to know these things too. I believe Lonnie used to start a false move of God and from all the information, presented about him endless false spirits. [the entire 60s was the bringing on of a false "social order"-entertainment religion everything. I agree there is far more research to be done.

armourup said...

I too would like to hear more about Lonnie Frisbee and even more I would like to hear more about the backgrounds of those other early guys in CC. Especially John Higgins who introduced Lonnie to Chuck Smith and who went on to direct Shilo... the FBI's textbook example of everything that can go wrong with a commune.

I would like to hear more about little known interesting contacts of Lonnie Frisbee.

Any personal knowledge or good links out there?

Bible Believer said...

Make sure to check out my other Calvary Chapel articles, I have them listed in the index. There was a secular movie made about Lonnie Frisbee, and also one can go to Youtube and search Lonnie Frisbee and see much more. I do not know much about Shilo, that would be interesting to look up. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Lonnie Frisbee was a true Christian who was saved, spoke in tongues, healed people and prophesied. His story isn't about a false Christian. It is about how ANY of the most blessed of Christians can still give way to their demons and fall from grace. I know because I knew Lonnie Frisbee in Ft. Lauderdale when he was working with the Derek Price ministries and they used to meet in my living room...he was a true believer, at one time.

Bible Believer said...

Maybe you believed he was a "true believer" but even the earliest quotes describing his 'salvation" are majorly off. Some may see his fall into homosexuality as a later fall from grace but to me even the earliest words show involvement with false spirits as well as his interactions with Kathyrn Khulman.

http://galatiansfour.blogspot.com/2010/06/kathyrn-khulman-and-chuck-smith.html

Read this article as well for more information...

http://galatiansfour.blogspot.com/2011/10/mantle-of-lonnie-frisbee.html

Anonymous said...

Good article. Here is an interview with Chuck Girard of Love Song, the early house band for Calvary Chapel. He talks about Lonnie and the start. www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfSu0GwLhbg - Don

Anonymous said...

From what I've found, the "John" that mijadedios ask about was mr. vineyard, John Wimber www.areyoureadyministries.org/bible-propecy.php - Don

Anonymous said...

Self-correction - John Wimber married Carol in 1955, so he should not be the "John" that dated Chuck Smith's daughter. www.ourvineyard.org/timeline.html - Don

Anonymous said...

When we come to christ we all have false ideas about God and christianity. Lonnie got rid of his wrong theology over time as he learned more. I know i had some new age beliefs still and struggled with sin for my first year being born again. I cast out the homosexual spirit i had and for lonnie he probably didnt go through exorcisms to receive the freedom he needed.